Prisoners We Can’t Pay For

by Diane on January 31, 2009

Budget Cutting Blues

Budget Cutting Blues

Everyone knows the economy is on the skids.

Wall Street certainly feels it. Corporations continue to cut jobs. Mom and Pop businesses struggle to stay open. And state and local governments are faced with the cold hard reality that there’s just not enough money to go around.

Here’s the really scary part.  Among the budget-cutting targets are those used to run America’s jails and penitentiaries. The situation leaves policy makers little choice but to let some people currently in prison out of prison before they’ve served their sentences…

Overcrowding In California

Overcrowding In California

California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has found crime and justice problems in real life are much more difficult to solve than in the movies.  With his state staring at a 42 billion dollar deficit Schwarzenegger wants to grant early release to what he calls “petty criminals” – some 15,000 of them over the next year or so.  Also, the Governator wants to eliminate parole for all offenders not convicted of violent or sex related crimes. Schwarzenegger figures that would cut parole costs for about 70 thousand ex-cons. Nevermind that they would be back on the street with little or no supervision.

This type scenario is under consideration or already in the works in several other states.

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Who Should Stay - Who Should Go?

Virginia’s Governor wants to grant early release to about a thousand inmates. The Governor of New York wants 1,600 inmates to get out early and he’s called for re-vamping strict 1960-era drug laws to ease the number of people who get locked up in the future. In Kentucky even some murderers and other violent offenders are among the nearly 2,000 prisoners getting out early.

Naturally, any budget that reaches into the billions is going to be a prime target for possible spending cuts.  And here in America we spend about 60 billion dollars each year to manage the criminals we lock up.

But Whoa, Nellie!  Can we stop and think about this for a minute?

Is it really a good idea to let loose criminals without a supportive parole or rehabilitation system? We’re already a society struggling not to sink into a full blown depression and the crime rate is already up in some important categories.  Is this really the time to put thousands more unemployed people on the street, ex-cons who may return to crime if they can’t find work? And, they will certainly further strain our already overloaded unemployment system.

Not Like You and Me

Not Like You and Me

Let’s speak in general terms since not everyone in prison is a hardened career criminal.  Generally speaking these people are not like you and me. They often lack empathy and don’t care about the pain their actions inflict on others. They don’t see that working for a living is an honorable thing. Getting an education is often not of interest to them.  They exist unable to control their own emotions, stealing what isn’t theirs as if they are entitled. They take drugs, other citizens’ possessions, children’s innocence and sometimes they take people’s lives.

Thomas Sneddon, currently heads the National District Attorneys Association and was in the prosecutorial trenches for decades as the D.A. in Santa Barbara, California.  He cautions us to put it all in perspective.

The prisoner who gets out early today, he says, “may be a lot more dangerous to the public than their one charge indicates.” As a defendant he or she may have pleaded to the lesser of a half-dozen serious charges and rewarding them with early release sends the wrong message.

Sneddon believes there are some prisoners who could be released safely into the population, “But not the wholesale way that’s being discussed now.” And he makes a dire prediction about his home state Governor’s early release plan.

“They’ll re-offend. They won’t take this as the gift it is. If you release 15,000 thousand of them in California I’ll bet 10 thousand of them will be back in lock up within 2 years.”  It’s a terrible cycle of wasted lives and wasted taxpayer’s money.

I was glad to read this quote from Michael Thompson the director of The Council of State Government’s Justice Center a group which is working hard to figure out ways to curb prison populations while keeping the public safe.

“There’s an unprecedented level of interest in this kind of thinking,” Thompson said.  “It’s a combination of fiscal pressure and a certain fatigue of doing the same thing as 20 years ago and getting the same return.”

And that’s the rub, isn’t it?  The number of incarcerated people in America keeps going up every year, costing us more and more money.  And when they get out of prison many of them are still drains on society.

There’s got to be a better way.  I wish someone would figure it out – and soon.

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DianeDimond January 31, 2009 at 11:35 pm

Web Site Reader Jane S. from California writes:

"How does each state define "petty criminal"? We're not talking Robin Hood or
the Artful Dodger here!

I'm a Californian. Early release of those serving time for non-violent,
non-sex crimes makes me uneasy. How many crimes did they commit before
actually receiving their sentence of incarceration? How was their sentence
serving time initially plea-bargained down already?

If they were driving under the influence how quickly will they turn into
lethal weapons on the road again? Are we really naive enough to think that
having spent time incarcerated that they'll come out of that environment
identifying with the 'now good, law-abiding citizen' side of the coin or
will they identify with the more hardened criminal side of the coin, and
think they've acquired more contacts/knowledge from the inside on how to
better commit the crime, how to beat the system? I'd love to have faith in
the ideal of 'rehabilitation', but I just don't see evidence of real
progress in that area.

If they're in prison on mere drug charges and not transferred out into
viable re-hab programs under strict parole parameters (even then success is
iffy) – they'd have to have a burning desire to stay clean and sober and
immense strength of character to persist, clean and sober, to find
employment against all odds……Do you really think that's the road they'll
choose?

Or will they dive into the drug scene, then into the crimes that get them
the drugs, and while high maybe panic in the process and get violent to
obtain their fix?

And how much money will this really save as we pay for the vicious cycle all
over again? Of course one could even more cynically ponder if completing the
time of their incarceration will do anything more than postpone the
inevitable anyway.

How will we then prosecute 'petty criminals'? Give them vouchers for future
prison time when the state can afford it? Ask them to promise good behavior
until that time? What planet is Arnold living on and in what state does he
really reside?

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DianeDimond January 31, 2009 at 11:36 pm

Web Site Reader B.B. from California writes:

"Heck no!!!! What we should do is use them as labor and save the tax payers money for cleaning up our highways, etc."

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Ralph_Logan February 1, 2009 at 1:19 am

Diane
Each day you hear.new unemployment numbers. Hard working men and women being laid off , jobs terminated , families facing an uncertain futures. To ease the burden in some states , release numbers of inmates back to the communities that are already strained with this recession. If these Governments have taken the time to program the inmates with vocational training,educational and sustance abuse programs ,anything to give them a shot of become productive again, this wouldn't be such a dangerous avenue to follow.
History has shown that the burden face with so many people out of work, families displaced, no future. A new type of criminal will emerge,one more dangerous because of the need to survive, add that to your inmates fresh out of jails ,no one is safe. Keep the door close,keep the inmates in until they have served their time. The newly unemployed don't need to be fighting for the same assistance for themselves and their families with men and women who are in prisons because of their own bad decisions.

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Lyn February 1, 2009 at 1:57 am

Well, they say money is the root of all evil and how true that is. The country is in the biggest economic crisis ever…not sure what the answer is to this problem. However, just thinking of these prisoners getting early release really makes me feel sick….and…to some extent, in danger. Is there an answer to this problem???

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C. Armani January 31, 2009 at 11:41 pm

Take the tax burden off the public. Pay the staff. Outside of that make the prison a self-sustaining environment. If you are a prisoner and want to eat, grow and harvest your own food. If you are a prisoner and you want to drink, dig your own well. If you need clothes, make them. Outside of that, all you need is air and time. Those are pretty much free and at no cost to the taxpayer. You broke the law and with that comes a loss of rights … the right to study, the right to make a living, the right to live a normal existence as those on the outside whose rights you probably violated in the first place. The prison system should establish a work force at no charge to the State for labor, cleaning roads, digging ditches for pipelines, cleaning garbage off beaches and streets or whatever other tasks are needed by the State that might generally cost taxpayers. Simply stated…if you aren’t paying for prisoners then you don’t have to worry about paying them…no cost to the taxpayers. Make sense? Sure it does!

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DianeDimond February 1, 2009 at 4:13 pm

Now THAT'S a good idea – employ prisoners (at minimum wage only) to help re-build the infrastructure of the society they tried to tear down! Wonder if the Obama Administration would go for that?

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Janet Turner February 8, 2009 at 7:57 pm

I am all for this! It is really sad when you think that we, the tax payers, are taking care of the people who violated our rights. It is disgraceful. So why not make them pay for their keep…so to speak. I have been a fan of Sheriff Joe Arcaipo for a long time and he seems to make it work. Maybe someone needs to put a bug in someones ear.

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ADRIAN February 1, 2009 at 9:05 am

DIANE THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING!!!!!! MAYBE THEY SHOULD LET ALL OF THOSE BAD GUYS AND GIRLS , LIVE NEXT DOOR TO MR/GOV. ARNOLD, HUH? THIS WORLD IS GETTING WORSE!!!! WHAT A SHAME!!!!!! BUT I’M GLAD I BELIEVE IN PROTECTING MY SELF, WITH GUNS AND AMMO.!!!!!!!!!!!! DONT COME TO MY DOOR!!!!!

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jeff liddell February 1, 2009 at 3:50 pm

As I have mentioned before, our prison system, for the most part, teaches individuals more about committing crime than learning a trade, if they were truly a rehab system less violent criminals could be learning a trade, furthering their education and then maybe early releases would not be such an issue. Then there is the problem of ex cons getting hired and who can blame companies that don't want to hire ex cons, maybe the new President's public works projects can assist here. Past history has reflected the rise of petty crime by basically good people just trying to feed themselves and/or their families during increasing unemployment. As for violent criminals, there is no reason that early release should be considered. If the state of our economy is not turned around soon I fear a rise in anarchy may be inevitable and some of these movies that have depicted the future as a few good people trying to survive in pockets of vast wasteland may become more prophetic than we would like to realize. I know that sounds very negative, but we are on a very slippery slope from an economic standpoint and our new leaders better come up with a workable plan very soon. To paraphrase from the poet Dylan Thomas, this high tech society we live in will not go gentle into another depression.

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DianeDimond February 1, 2009 at 4:08 pm

Web Site Reader Don D. from New Jersey writes:

"You've had a couple editorials lately that really struck home for me.

I've always thought the Border Patrol agents had been obscenely mistreated. I too thought that they should have been pardoned, not just given commuted sentences. They're still felons. All through the scenario, the government acted as an enemy of it's own employees, employees who were tasked with keeping drug traffickers out of this country. Scrutinize the actions of it's officers while ignorning the incredibly serious misconduct of the person they tried to apprehend.

It seems to me that the Bush Administration was focused on kissing President Calderon' rear, for reasons that escape me. Calderon's country and government are in my opinion, conducting an economic war against us and we just lay back and take it.

Keeping prisoners IN jail is one of the few things I would pay more in taxes to accomplish.

Gov Schwarzenegger is amazing to me. He is cutting salaries and laying off US citizens, withholding tax refunds he owes and yet not one single word has been said about cutting social services to illegals. How wonderful, savage US citizens while protecting inappropriate spending for those who violate our laws. Can our society get more fouled up? Unfortunately, I'm afraid the answer is yes."

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DianeDimond February 1, 2009 at 4:12 pm

Adrian, take a deep breath, my dear, and release the caps lock on your keyboard lest people think you are a little crazy!
Actually, I know the firearms you have and any criminal would be nuts to try to get in your house! ;-) ~ DD

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Lyn February 1, 2009 at 7:42 pm

Note…do not try to get into Adrians house or you will get shot!! No idea where you live but got the message. I think the economics of the world has gone completely to pot. How can anything ever be fixed? it;s gone too far…..God help the younger generations having to find a job in this mess!! I am too angry and worked up to say more…cos I don;t think there is a resolution to anything these days. God that sounds so negative but I am just being honest. Sometimes I feel like I am losing the will to live!

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Frank Praytor February 2, 2009 at 1:51 am

Adrian makes a point, albeit rather indelicately. "Home improvement" lately is focused largely on steel bars over the windows and outer doors. Meanwhile, back in the state houses and in D.C., they're planning to make it illegal to protect your home and your family in conventional ways, such as the use of firearms. The release of criminals in stir is nothing short of insanity, which will result exactly as expressed by others in this column: Higher costs of crime and more innocent people killed and maimed than ever before, in the name of budget-cutting. I hope Obama has the guts to mandate labor instead of gym exercise for physically able prisoners, assigning them the tasks of rebuilding our nation's infrastructures as he has said he would do. But then, the irony hits us between the eyes as we read and hear about several of the new administration's cabinet appointees who should themselves be doing hard time. Catch 22, America! FinAbq

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DianeDimond February 2, 2009 at 2:20 am

Say, Frank – I guess I missed it. Did Obama REALLY say he would use able bodied prisoners to rebuild our nation's infrastructure?

I'd love to find that quote and contact the White House for clarification. If you can help me locate such a quote I will make the call!

Thanks for writing! ~ DD

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DianeDimond February 2, 2009 at 2:22 am

Say, Frank – I guess I missed it. Did Obama REALLY say he would use able bodied prisoners to rebuild our nations infrastructure?

I would love to find that quote and contact the White House for clarification. If you can help me locate such a quote I will make the call!

Thanks for writing! ~ DD

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Jeff Hughes February 2, 2009 at 11:48 pm

If the prisoners are getting out early, then put them in Iraq and fight for their freedom!! If they perform like true soldiers, they are free. some of them may well be killed in action, and that's fine, too! Don't put convicted murderers back in society. That is too easy and obviously asinine. If they ARE released back into society, then the people responsible for those decisons should be liable for harm done afterward! Want to save money? Cut gov't and make the ones that remain WORK for their money! I'm sure there are plenty of hard-working gov't employees, but to work from 9 to 4, and then get a plum benefit package? Nah……

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Zack February 15, 2009 at 12:57 am

Diane, the problem in many prisons is that with the closing of the mental hospitals, they have become the caregivers of the mentally ill. There are thousands of inmates in prison that would better be served in mental hosiptals or care facailties but there aren't resources for them. As a result, they've ended up in prison, which is ill prepared to deal with them. There also needs to be more support services for inmates when they get out. The public forgets that most of them WILL get out and if it is impossible for them to get jobs or services to get back on their feet, they'll go back to committing crimes all over again. It's not about feeling sorry for criminals or wanting to excuse the crimes they committed, it's about being smart and preventing recidvism

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DianeDimond February 15, 2009 at 3:45 am

Zack – I couldn't agree with you more! when I was a young TV reporter in New York I was sent down to Asbury Park, New Jersey where they'd closed the mental facility and let out all the patients, each with a fistfull of meds. Mostly they didn't take the meds and they wound up on the streets, living like homeless people. Soon enough they were committing petty crimes and went into full blown lock up. It's a shame that we can differentiate between the sick and the criminal.

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AussieKen March 12, 2009 at 12:22 pm

Hang on a tick. 35 and some years ago a cousin of mine served 6 months for a traffic offence. I won't go into details but there was no damage to property or injuries involved. He said that there were two lots of people in his low security prison farm The "crims" and a group of people like himself who were there for being darn fools. He also said that he had no intention of going back. He has been continuously employed in one job or another since then, built his own house, is still married to the girl who took him on and has two fine sons. He is also a leader in the small quarrying community where he lives. You let those sort of prisoners out, leave the rest in. it will take a bit of picking and choosing but you can probably reduce your prison population by 10% without letting out the dangerous types.

Not every prisoner is some kind of drooling sociopath.

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AussieKen March 12, 2009 at 12:23 pm

Some rural villages in Australia have gangs of low-risk prisoners camped on the outskirts. These towns often have little in the way of lawn mowing and similar services and a large population of elderly people. Prisoners are dropped off at some site with a mower or other tools and left to get on with it. Typically it will be the home of an elderly widow or some land that this getting out of control. The vehicle taking them around is driven by a prisoner. They have had one escape in the several years this has been going on.

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